According to Blockstream's press release these are the companies involved in Liquid, and one presumes a BTC-Liquid user would need to trust over 50% of them to not be bad actors:-
The Liquid blockchain went live with the first block generated on September 27, 2018 at 1:29 UTC. 23 of the cryptocurrency industry’s biggest players participated in the launch as Liquid members, including Altonomy, Atlantic Financial, Bitbank, Bitfinex, Bitmax, BitMEX, Bitso, BTCBOX, BTSE, Buull Exchange, DGroup, Coinone, Crypto Garage, GOPAX (operated by Streami), Korbit, L2B Global, OKCoin, The Rock Trading, SIX Digital Exchange, Unocoin, Xapo, XBTO, and Zaif. Together, these members comprise the Liquid Network, ensuring users’ assets are protected through a geographically diverse network with no single point of failure.
So just who are these "biggest players" as someone involved in cypto since 2011 the majority I've never heard of. This is a work-in-progress list, please help to contribute info with sources.
Altonomy
Website: https://www.altonomy.com
Locations:
- 140 Broadway, New York, NY 10005, USA
- 10 Marina Boulevard, MBFC Tower 2, Singapore 018983
- Beijing.
CoinMarketCap: Not Listed
Leaders:
- Bo Dong (CEO). Prev jobs: FBG Capital, Mega Credit, Louis Dreyfus Company
- Ricky Li (Head of N. America) Prev jobs: Crypto Trading, CME Group, PwC
Atlantic Financial
Website: http://atlanticfinancial.com
Location: Norwell Executive Center, 167 Washington St, Norwell, MA 02061, USA
Corporate Info: ?
CoinMarketCap: No Listed
Leaders: Bruce Fenton ( http://www.atlanticfinancial.com/about-atlantic-financial/about-atlantic-financial.htm )
Interesting info: Their client login is broken, and appears to be over insecure HTTP even if it did work. Technical prowness: 0
Further investigation:
If you load up https://atlanticfinancial.com you'll see it uses a self-signed certificate, which has a Common Name of "atlanticfinancial.brucefenton.org". So we load up http://brucefenton.org and what do we see:-
"Bruce Fenton is the Executive Director of the Bitcoin Foundation, the largest and oldest Bitcoin non-profit group. The Bitcoin Foundation focuses on advocacy, education and helping core development and has over 20 global chapters. Bruce is also an investor, consultant and advisor in the Bitcoin space, founder of the Bitcoin Association and is the organizer of the Dubai Bitcoin Conference and the Satoshi Roundtable retreat.
He is the founder of Atlantic Financial which, in 1994, became the first full-service investment firm to use the Internet. Prior to Atlantic Financial, Bruce was with Morgan Stanley and specialized in emerging technologies and emerging markets. He is also Managing Director of a company which focuses on emerging markets, economic, Bitcoin and tech consulting."
Hey /u/bruce_fenton can you confirm your corporate trading name please because I think I was confusing you guys with Atlantic Financial of Boston, MA. Thank you.
Bitbank
Website: https://bitbank.cc
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bitbank/
Leaders: Japanese site. Must translate
Interesting info: Trades 15 times more XRP than BTC!
Bitfinex
Website: https://www.bitfinex.com
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bitfinex/
Leaders: Lots of info out there regarding Bitfinex, the creators of Tether
Bitmax
Website: https://bitmax.io
CoinMarketCap: No Listed
Leaders: ? Singapore exchange.
BitMEX
Website: https://www.bitmex.com
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bitmex/ (deriratives market)
Leaders: TODO
Bitso
Website: https://bitso.com/
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bitso/
Leaders: TODO
Interesting info: Less than 1 million dollars volume in 24h. Tiny.
BTCBOX
Website: https://www.btcbox.co.jp/
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/btcbox/
Leaders: TODO
BTSE
Website: https://www.btse.com
CoinMarketCap: Not Listed
Leaders: TODO
Info: Not even launched yet! United Arab Emirates
Buull Exchange
Website: https://www.buull.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/BUULLexchange Twitter followers: 2 (hehe these are big players as Chairman Mow stated)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/buullexchange/ (3 likes)
Appear to be Italian, with official registration in Malta. Not much info at all. All I can find is /r/buull/ and /r/buullexchange/ Hey /u/dn2k who are Buull Exchange?
DGroup
Website: https://d.group
Zhao Dong, guy who lost 6000 BTC and Bitfinex shareholder (Bitfinex also on the list which seems to smell a little bit). https://www.blockasia.io/dgroup-zhao-dong-blockchain-is-more-than-just-a-simple-technology/
He is the guy telling the world that bitfinex is safe... "trust him"... https://news.bitcoin.com/vouching-bitfinex-and-tethers-bank-accounts-hold-nearly-3-billion-usd/
Also if you look at their website (which takes ages to load) you'll see Dong is not only invested in bitfinex, but OK Coin too who also appear on this list. So is this list of 23 companies (23 federated nodes to trust) actually 21 real decision makers which is even worse?
Dong's Twitter: https://twitter.com/zhaodong1982
Coinone
Website: https://coinone.co.kr/
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/coinone/
Leaders: TODO
Crypto Garage (Digital Garage ?)
Website: https://www.garage.co.jp
CoinMarketCap: Not Listed
Leaders: TODO
GOPAX
Website: https://www.gopax.co.kr
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/gopax/
Leaders: TODO
Info: Blockstream made a point to tell us that GOPAX is operated by "Streami" whoever they are.
Korbit
Website: https://www.korbit.co.kr
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/korbit/
Leaders: TODO
L2B Global
Website: https://l2b.global
CoinMarketCap: Not Listed
Info: Seriously lacking info about this company.
OK Coin
Website: https://www.okcoin.com/
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/okcoin-intl/
Leaders: TODO
Info: Less than quarter of a million USD 24hr trading volume! Miniscule!
The Rock Trading
Website: https://therocktrading.com/
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/therocktrading/
Leaders: TODO
Info: $300,000 24hr trading volume!
SIX Digital Exchange
Website: https://www.six-group.com
CoinMarketCap: Not Listed
Leaders: TODO
Info: According to https://www.six-group.com/en/site/digital-exchange.html comes out mid-2019.
Unocoin
Website: https://www.unocoin.com
CoinMarketCap: Not Listed
Leaders: TODO
Info: Indian exchange
Xapo
Website: https://xapo.com
CoinMarketCap: Not Listed
Leaders: C'mon we know Xapo!
XBTO
Website: http://www.xbto.com
Corporate Info: http://derivee.com appear to be the power behind this company. Delaware company XBTO TRADING, LLC file #5697413. XBTO VENTURES, LLC #6609461. XBTO MINING, LLC #6609466. XBTO FUTURES, LLC #6609463. XBTO CRYPTO INDEX FUND, LLC #6616045. XBTO CAPITAL, LP #6616040. XBTO CAPITAL GP, LLC #6616034
Location: 3 Columbus Circle, Suite 1735, New York, New York 10019
CoinMarketCap: Not Listed
Leaders (refers to derivee unless stated):-
- Philipe Bekhazi (CEO)
- Jeffry Caplan (COO)
- Brice Wilson (COO of XBTO)
- Walton Comer (CIO)
Zaif
Website: https://zaif.jp
CoinMarketCap: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/zaif/
Leaders: TODO
TLDR: I wouldn't buy a second-hand car from 90% of these companies. Other comments: The majority of these companies (over 51%) are tiny. It seems it would only cost a few million to create many of these unheard of companies over the years (remember BlockTheStream have had this planned for over 4 years) and thus control total consensus of the system.
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